[shooter1990]

hi all

im looking to silence my TM L96 but i cant find anything anywere. if anyone can point me in the right direction i will be very greatful

many thanks

shooter

[*Ak*]

Ok I usually hate spoon feeding people but I'm feeling nice.

The majority of the noise in all bolt action rifle comes out the barrel therefore you can silence it like a real gun.

The TM 96 takes the same silencer adaptor as a g-spec get one of those and a silencer, this will make it almost inaudable even more so at the lower fps.
If thats still not enough buy some damper cushions for your cylinder head.

If you want to take it further you can fill all cavities in the stock with old t-shirts and foam as well, and a bearing spring guide will help out a little bit as well.

[shooter1990]

ok cool thanks buddy sorry if i sounded a noob with this post lol

[Can]

While I've not seen inside a TM L96 I'll base my input on going by thier VSR's.

A good quality suppressor will make more of a diffrence than a cheap one. Also remember that using a suppressor makes over hoping a no no.

The stock is a real weaknes for supressing them as all that big empty space just acts like an eco box. Best examples of these are accoustic and electric instruments try playing an accoustic instrument and thats like a standard VSR pick up an elctric and play it with out pluging it in, filling the stock on a VSR with resin or a fortress stock has a similar effect.

The biggest problem is that doing the above increases the wieght a lot which is what most people love about the VSR.

Also leave the Airbrake alone for maximum silence and add damper pads though be aware these will ware out over time.

Can

[Beaker]

Surely as a sniper you would be sufficiently far enough away from your intended target(s) not to be heard anyway, so is there really a need to "silence" it?

If you're that close that you can be heard I'd suggest you're too close and/or need to work on your tactics.

I shall now await the rants from pro snipers with all sorts of mad science, theory and facts from real steel etc (where I can see the point and need for silencers). Rest assured I'm not interested nor will I reply further but I just wanted to point out a basic fact and light the fuse.

:)

[Warrior]

Even easier... don't pull the trigger... silence :P

[Can]

Depends on the player.

Sometime the technical challange of just how far can you push something.

Also it helps with concelment, and sometimes you might have to get up close and personal to take that important shot on for instance the enemy commander in a milsim.

[shmook]

Beaker, on 14 June 2010 - 18:10 , said:

Surely as a sniper you would be sufficiently far enough away from your intended target(s) not to be heard anyway, so is there really a need to "silence" it?

If you're that close that you can be heard I'd suggest you're too close and/or need to work on your tactics.

I shall now await the rants from pro snipers with all sorts of mad science, theory and facts from real steel etc (where I can see the point and need for silencers). Rest assured I'm not interested nor will I reply further but I just wanted to point out a basic fact and light the fuse.

:)

its not always the case of being too close...

ive got an L96, running around 500 fps. ive filled the stock up with foam, use damper pads on the cylinder head etc, but it still has a healthy muzzle report, which can be heard downwind a good distance away over open terrain, under certain conditions.

*awaits calls to shoot upwind*

shooting upwind isnt always practical :P



another thing, relevantbut slightly off topic;

no matter what you do, their is always the noise of the bb 'whistle', which you get even from the quietest rifs. there is nothing you can do about this, but they are quite distinctive, varying depending on pellet weight and rifle setup. they are a personal marker to if you are being shot at, and by who. so much so, that i can recognise the 3 regular snipers at our site by this noise.

the only way to stop this giving you away is to be sure of your target, and dont miss, which brings us back round to beakers' comment about getting too close!

its a vicious circle :D

[doc]

Beaker, on 14 June 2010 - 18:10 , said:

Surely as a sniper you would be sufficiently far enough away from your intended target(s) not to be heard anyway, so is there really a need to "silence" it?

If you're that close that you can be heard I'd suggest you're too close and/or need to work on your tactics.

I shall now await the rants from pro snipers with all sorts of mad science, theory and facts from real steel etc (where I can see the point and need for silencers). Rest assured I'm not interested nor will I reply further but I just wanted to point out a basic fact and light the fuse.

:)

Not always ,my Tanakas are inaudible from 5 metres away ,just the click of the striker spring ..saying that you should know Beaker :thefinger:
Unlike most spring rifles the dont have the heavy clange twang sound from a spring and metal piston striking metal ,so being within 10-15 metres of op4 and still being able to take shots at further a field players is possible

[Reign-Mack]

Beaker, on 14 June 2010 - 19:10 , said:

Surely as a sniper you would be sufficiently far enough away from your intended target(s) not to be heard anyway, so is there really a need to "silence" it?
...

You may find yourself shooting at people at a distance while their other team members are pretty close to your location.

[vindicareassassin]

Reign-Mack, on 15 June 2010 - 07:44 , said:

Beaker, on 14 June 2010 - 19:10 , said:

Surely as a sniper you would be sufficiently far enough away from your intended target(s) not to be heard anyway, so is there really a need to "silence" it?
...

You may find yourself shooting at people at a distance while their other team members are pretty close to your location.

Also not forgeting not all of us snipe at uber mega power so need to be that bit closer anyway, making the above statement even more relavent and plausable :P

[sven]

Not long after the film 'Shooter' came out, Doc and myself cut a small hole in the bottom of a water bottle and taped the top end to the front of his L96 (one Sunday morning at Catterick I believe) - it really did suppress the sound and he kept it on until he'd had a kill with it.

Didn't look 'tacti-cool' (in fact, the exact opposite), but effective non the less.

[Shaggy]

To coin a rather cliched slogun from a large supermarket chain... Every little helps ;)

This post has been edited by Shaggy: 15 June 2010 - 18:28

[ShadyDave]

Beaker, on 14 June 2010 - 18:10 , said:

Surely as a sniper you would be sufficiently far enough away from your intended target(s) not to be heard anyway, so is there really a need to "silence" it?

If you're that close that you can be heard I'd suggest you're too close and/or need to work on your tactics.

I shall now await the rants from pro snipers with all sorts of mad science, theory and facts from real steel etc (where I can see the point and need for silencers). Rest assured I'm not interested nor will I reply further but I just wanted to point out a basic fact and light the fuse.

:)

:nade:

Mr Beaker has a good point actually despite his inflammatory ways :)

I always silenced mine because I got into the habit when running below current limits. Back then a sneaky little "thwack" from a returning piston was quite easy to hear because of the ranges...especially if it was quiet. Back at the Nassington FFZ site there were many undulations in the ground for sneaky blighters to scurry around in and I worked on the principle of "Better Safe than Sorry".....especially when John Dean popped up with that bloomin' M4 he had..


More relevantly ontopic: Quality silencer, plug hollows in stock with foam...then the old faithfulfoam lined rifle rag.

[doc]

sven, on 15 June 2010 - 16:38 , said:

Not long after the film 'Shooter' came out, Doc and myself cut a small hole in the bottom of a water bottle and taped the top end to the front of his L96 (one Sunday morning at Catterick I believe) - it really did suppress the sound and he kept it on until he'd had a kill with it.

Didn't look 'tacti-cool' (in fact, the exact opposite), but effective non the less.

It wasnt big nor clever but it worked ..

[*Ak*]

doc, on 15 June 2010 - 22:50 , said:

sven, on 15 June 2010 - 16:38 , said:

Not long after the film 'Shooter' came out, Doc and myself cut a small hole in the bottom of a water bottle and taped the top end to the front of his L96 (one Sunday morning at Catterick I believe) - it really did suppress the sound and he kept it on until he'd had a kill with it.

Didn't look 'tacti-cool' (in fact, the exact opposite), but effective non the less.

It wasnt big nor clever but it worked ..

I remember you guys mentioning that on the old forums, did you stuff the bottle with anything? I can't remember.

[sven]

*Ak*, on 16 June 2010 - 11:45 , said:

doc, on 15 June 2010 - 22:50 , said:

sven, on 15 June 2010 - 16:38 , said:

Not long after the film 'Shooter' came out, Doc and myself cut a small hole in the bottom of a water bottle and taped the top end to the front of his L96 (one Sunday morning at Catterick I believe) - it really did suppress the sound and he kept it on until he'd had a kill with it.

Didn't look 'tacti-cool' (in fact, the exact opposite), but effective non the less.

It wasnt big nor clever but it worked ..

I remember you guys mentioning that on the old forums, did you stuff the bottle with anything? I can't remember.

Nothing so techincal - just cut a smallish hole in the bottom of the bottle (~3/4")

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Bob Lee FTW!

[Archer]

http://www.ukairsoftzone.co.uk/forums/public/style_images/master/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />ShadyDave, on 15 June 2010 - 20:14 , said:

Mr Beaker has a good point actually despite his inflammatory ways
I always silenced mine because I got into the habit when running below current limits. Back then a sneaky little "thwack" from a returning piston was quite easy to hear because of the ranges...especially if it was quiet. Back at the Nassington FFZ site there were many undulations in the ground for sneaky blighters to scurry around in and I worked on the principle of "Better Safe than Sorry".....especially when John Dean popped up with that bloomin' M4 he had..


More relevantly ontopic: Quality silencer, plug hollows in stock with foam...then the old faithfulfoam lined rifle rag.

Having played at Nassington and more than likely been on the wrong end of Dave's pieces - all i can was "ouch and where the f*ck did that come from "

So, guess he effectively made it bloody quiet. http://www.ukairsoftzone.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

And yes, Mr Dean with that blasted M4 - should have had that removed from him !

[ShadyDave]

Aw, shucks :)

At 380fps (remember the great FPS debate on UKAN and the 1.35j limit?) you couldn't hear my 96 from more than a couple of feet away...which was nice because the range certainly wasn't enough to keep you out of trouble. There's a certain metallic thwock at 500 but again, that rifle rag made all the difference and I have to admit I borrowed the idea from Mr Draven.

Bloody M4....

[shooter1990]

hmm some interesting facts (and stories) thanks everyone for the in put :) much appreciated :) :cheers: